On the episode where Ash wins his Earth Badge, just as he is about to go inside, Gary turns up. He says to Ash that he has already got all the badges, but then he goes in to try and get an Earth Badge. I thought he said that he had got all the badges???
Eight badges are required to enter the Indigo Pokemon League. But there are more than eight gyms. Ash decided to win the required amount of badges but Gary, who is a better trainer, decided to challenge a large number of gym leaders so he could enter the league and show how good a trainer he was. So Gary has more than eight badges.
If they were "illegal gyms", wouldn't Gary be caught at the Pokemon League? After all, one must show their badges before entering. Therefore that can't be a possibility. There are more than 8 gyms (excluding the Johto gyms) apparently, within the cartoon.
Highly doubtful, that he won them at the Orange Island gyms. The reason why I believe this is because none of the 10 badges he had shown had a shell, to my knowledge. I honestly am not certain. Here are the steps in determining whether Gary won other legal badges:
1) Watch the episode where Ash battles Team Rocket as gym leaders.
2) Pause the screen at the point when Gary flashes his 10 badges.
3) Look to see if different shaped badges, aside from the ones in the Pokemon League, Orange Island league, or the Johto League, are on there.
More proof that there are other gyms within the cartoon is in that episode with the Marowak trainer; when Team Rocket wishes to steal this Marowak's trainer's badges, they want to steal more from this other trainer. None of this other trainer's badges look like the ones Ash gets.
this person is not trying to prove that Gary has unidentified badges, (the two extra), he is trying to prove that Gary said he has all badges, but he is still competing the earth badge, he was wrong, the closest thing he could have said is that he have all badges except the earth badge
Did Gary actually say, "I got all the badges"? Because that really makes no sense at all. It could be a misquote, but if it's not then I guess I'm wrong. Though it wouldn't really make sense for Gary to have all the badges. Double-checking's required, I guess.
Doesn't Jessie try to steal some other badges when she already has (stolen) the eight required to enter the tournament in a later episode? From what I remember they are of a different style to those Ash has won. Perhaps there is some kind of seeding in the league, so having more badges (i.e. from other gyms to those Ash visits) would allow one to miss the earlier rounds.
Yes; Jesse tries to steal some other person's badges which look totally different from Ash's badges. This occurred in the episode with the Marowak trainer. Team Rocket steals a Marowak trainer's badges (and they look identical to Ash's) and then later on within the same episode, Jesse wants to steal more badges, so he meets up with a guy who has an entirely different set of badges.
The Pokemon League rules specifically said that a MINIMUM of 8 badges are required in entering the Pokemon League. It has nothing to do with "seeding". Thus, the facts are:
1) There are exactly 8 gyms in Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow.
2) There are more than 8 gyms in the cartoon, prior to the Orange League.
3) Ash goes to the same gyms that one must go through when playing Red/Blue/Yellow.
4) Gary had 10 badges at the time Ash had 7 (and then he got an Earth badge in order to get 8).
5) The Marowak trainer had the exact same badges Ash had, but another trainer which Jesse tried to steal badges from had a different set of badges, showing how there are gyms aside from Red/Blue/Yellow.
6) The extra badges Gary had could not have been from the Orange League, or the Johto League.
If there were exactly 8 badges, then how would you explain another trainer having different badges? I'm not talking about Gary here .. I'm talking about the Pokemon trainer shown later in the episode with the Marowak trainer.
That's fine that you heard from somewhere that there are exactly 8 badges. Is the place you heard it reliable? Did you hear it from some website? From some family member? From the creators of Pokemon themselves? If there are exactly 8 badges then they've obviously goofed (i.e. "slipped up").
1. Besides the towns and cities in R/B/Y/G there are others in the show, although I can't remember any(but can give you an example from G/S > Cattailia City. It isn't in the game). Maybe other gyms were located there. But I don't really think so because the badges in sets look somehow alike and I don't think they would scatter the different badges in those small towns and mix them with another set.
2. And I have another theory: There are only eight badges(Boulder, Cascade, Lightning...) but more sets of them. I mean they are the same badges but only look different.
3. I can hardly believe that the Pokémon world is restricted to Kanto, Johto and The Orange Islands. What happened to the whole world? Is it radioactive? Was there a nuclear war? Did it turn into a desert?
You know Gary said that he had more than enough, plus if you would have noticed on that episode with the Marowak trainer, he had a different set of badges, plus in Dark City, those two gyms wanted to be "official Pokémon league gyms"
p.s. one of the badges that the Marowak trainer had came from one of those gyms whose gym leader somehow made an appearance in the quiz episode
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