Bill says that he has been looking for the 150th pokémon which is 1-of-a-kind all through the episode, but when you see it it is easy to tell that it is a dragonite, which is not one of a kind, and is #149 anyway! #150 is mewtwo.
Bill doesn't say he is looking for the 150th pokemon, if anything he said he studied all 150 pokemon. and remember that Ash knows zilch about pokemon compared to most viewers, so maybe Bill doesn't know much about some pokemon, too!
That POKeMON Bill saw may be an evolved form of Dragonite, which I've personally heard will be called either Draco or Dragogod, but it is not in POKeMON #'s 1-251(I've seen their pictures). So, maybe, the games will take a lesson from the show.
The Gastly from the Maiden of the Rock episode can talk. So can Team Rocket's Meowth. Maybe the Dragonite was a "special" Pokemon like Gastly and Meowth.
And I know that Meowth learned how to talk so don't remind me.
Noturn, it's impossible for Dragonite to have an evolved form, because no Pokemon has more than three evolution stages (except Evee, and that's different). Even in Pokemon Gold/Silver, all the new evolutions of original Pokemon are of one or two stage Pokemon, geddit?
Hey you out there!
It's me BILL!
Did I ever say that the big pokemon would be #150!!!
What I said is that there are surely more than 150 pokemon!
sincerely Yours BILL
PS:And I do live in a lighthouse
Notum, no-one has really said it, but if you think about it, it is kind of obvious. I'm a Poké Master who has every Game Boy Pokémon (including Mew) and could tell people a thing or two! So, can I just say that it is possible for a Pokémon to be larger than it should be. Remember in the Tentacool episode, Brock says that the Tentacruel is larger than it should be, and the episode with Bruno and the giant Onix. I rest my case. Oh, and Bill, thanks for clearing that stuff up for me, and sorting out that person who thought you didn't live in a lighthouse
Pokemigual is correct, I have a book with all Pokémon listings up to 250 or 251, which ever. Bill did not say that the Dragonite shadow was Pokémon #150.
No there aren't! I have played and completed Pkmn Gold and Silver, as I downloaded it in full english from www.emusanet.com/downloads/GAMEBOY_COLOR/pokegold.zip, silver from www.emusanet.com/downloads/GAMEBOY_COLOR/pokesilver.zip. There are no Pokémon with more than 2 Evolutions. The only exceptions are Eevee and Slowpoke (when a Shellder bites a Slowpoke's head, it evolves to Slowking). Please, name one Pokémon that has more than 3 Pokémon in it's set and I will check it up to clarify.
Let's put this debate to rest, kiddies. Ash and Bill should subscribe to some Nintendo magazine or something. Here are the inconsistensies:
- If, as Bill says, Kabuto, etc. are extinct, why does he say that there are
150 known Pokemon? Is he the guy who numbers them?
- Come to think of it, why say there are 150 Pokemon if Mewtwo doesn't exist
yet?
- Why does Bill not seem to have a clue as to what this Pokemon is called? (Even
an idiot like Slowpoke would be able to guess the name if he heard the cry of
"DRAAAAAAAAAAGONITE!"
- If there are 150 Pokemon, how could Bill not know about Dragonite anyway?
- Bill says Dragonite is the last of its kind. Baloney! Look Bill, if you want
a Dragonite so badly, go to Celadon City, buy a Dratini at the Games Corner,
and raise it to level 55. Bingo!
- Dragonite is almost as big as the lighthouse. Hello? Dragonite is only 7'2"!
- Finally, in the very next episode, PokeDex says that Raichu's thunder attacks
are "enough to render a Dragonite unconscious". If technically Dragonite is
unknown, why was he mentioned in the PokeDex in an entry so basic as a Raichu?
(One of the first entries, I'd wager.)
Oh, and by the way, Drago was a Japanese name for Dragonite and Dragogod was a cruel hoax.
You're all a little bit right and a little bit wrong. (Hmm, sounds like a Lou Bega song) It's impossible that the gigantic thing was a dragonite. Dragonite aren't a fifth that height, that thing was, like, in the words of Tiny Elvis, That is HUGE! We have yet to discover what in the name of Selebii that thing WAS.
The deal with that is, remember this much. That ep is pretty early in the series. Mewtwo is still in the creation phase. The existence of Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite has not been confirmed yet!
Sorry to burst yer bubble, people, but there is no such thing as a Pokemon with four stages. And there never will be. It's one of the few strict Pokemon RULES. You've got Basic, Stage1, and then Stage2 (this does not count Pre-Evolution Pokemon like Elekid or Pichu, but those don't have Stage2 forms anyways) And thus, there is no evolution of Dragonite--that's as far as that Pokemon goes.
I can back up anything I just said. Wanna challenge me? Fine, you'll end up looking silly though. ^_^
And come to think of it Dragonite doesn't really make that noise! Listen to it in Pokemon Snap, Stadium, or the First Movie. It makes this stupid dopey yawning noise which dramatically lowers my respect for it. =) The noise that the mystery Pokemon made was more like Dragonair. And by the way, quite a few GS (Gold, Silver) Pokemon may have been discovered before Mewtwo.
Look, this is getting out of hand now, so I prey this is the last comment to be posted to this slipup.
1. DOES ANYONE TAKE ANY NOTICE OF WHAT I SAY? Look at the first comment I posted here. It says 'it is not unusual for a Pokémon to be bigger than it should be.' Look at the reasons why!!!!!!!!
2. Ice, you're one of those people that will try anything to get a Mew won't you? Well, can I say I did NOT I repeat NOT do a cheat to recieve him (well, I did sort of). You see I went to a Pokémon convention in the north of England, not sure exactly where, and a teenager was selling Mew for £5. I'm not that desperate, so I didn't pay the money, but the boy saw the look on my face when I said no (I have one of those faces) and the convention was closing so I duplicated it from him.
3. Mars Guo, you are the only sane user on this slipup (no offense but I'm sorry, it's true. I know Ice means well). I completely agree with you on the 3 set evolution rule and am speechless to post anything involving your discovery on a Dragonair sounding Dragonite. Maybe that should be posted somewhere else as it is DEFINETELY A DRAGONITE! WRITE IT DOWN EVERYONE!!!
Thanks Alex... OK, I know it's not unusual for a Pokemon to be bigger than usual bit this is freakin' rediculous. O_O With the Onix there was a reason. The fertile soil makes them grow that big. Dragonite don't always have to be the EXACT height mentioned in Pokedex, they could be a few inches shorter or larger. But FIFTY FEET? That's not right! I suppose it COULD have been a Dragonite. When humans get excited about rare Pokemon mistakes can be made (look at Mewtwo, or the Tentacruel from that Porta Vista episode. That thing was gargantuan!)
If it was a Dragonite here's my theory on its size... look at any map that shows Pallet Town, Cerulean City, and the rest. Look how close Bill's House is to that Power Plant. This Dragonite could have some odd mutation--like when a Tentacool got an overdose of Team Rocket's stun juice.
Nice points there, thanks Mars Guo, you put up some good points on the Pokémon slipups. This is the beginning of a wonderful net friendship. Email me at [email protected] as there is some important stuff I need to tell you about.
I am a Pokemon Master also and I have beaten the game 11 times. I did not, I repeat DID NOT get Mew from the guy in Celadon City. I only got a cruddy diploma. About the Pokemon IT WAS A DRAGONITE. The Gastly at Maiden's Peak could talk. The Tentacruel in Porta Vista was huge. There was a pink Butterfree in "Bye Bye Butterfree". Team Rocket's Meowth can talk. And what about the giant Alakazam and Gengar from the episode where Ash discovers Pokemopolis? Remember Pooka the Pikachu from the episode where Jan rides Humunga-Dunga? And Bruno's giant Onix? Pokemon can be abnormal. Plenty of Pokemon in the show are abnormal. I rest my case. @-@
The Pokemon that Bill saw was DEFENETLY A DRAGONITE!!! It could be a special Pokemon like the Gastly from Maiden's Peak. Or Team Rocket's Meowth. Or Bruno's giant Onix. And what about Pooka the Pikachu? Or the giant Alakazam, Gengar, and Jigglypuff from Pokemopolis? That Dragonite is a special Pokemon like them. And Bill does NOT live in a lighthouse.
In the original game, Bill lived in a SEA COTTAGE. No sign of a lighthouse anywhere. But then, he was a cool, friendly guy; not a prissy geek like the show depicts him.
If it's a Dragonite, then it's not pure dragonite. It was most likely a genetics experiment or a crossbreeding procedure which went horribly wrong.
At least we had reasons for the other ones. The tentacruel got so big due to act of will and an incredible overevolution in reaction to TR's toxins. Meowth isn't anything special. He can only talk because he got lovesick in hollywood and wanted to impress some girl. Bruno's giant onix grew that big naturally because of the fertile soil, so it's nothing significant either. The crystal onix is explainable too, after an onix lives about five hundred years its shell turns to something similar to a diamond.
The giant Gengar, Jigglypuff and Alakazam were from an Ancient civilization. They had been sealed there for thousands of years, caught back when Pokemon were tougher. Even Magikarp used to be legendary for their power back then. It's because over time, a species devolves. The sun will one day run out of gas, the world will die, and batteries run out of power. It's the one scientific fact that makes Darwin's evolution theories impossible.
It's possible for Pokemon to have different colors and it's no big deal. This was proven in the episode in which we lost Brock.
What I'm saying is, you may very well be right but there is an equal possibility that you're wrong. All of the Pokemon you mentioned had reasonable explainations--explain this one.
And about Dragonite, it's probably mutated or something. Bill lives pretty close to the power plant, so Dragonite probably got super shocked or maybe the Grimers got it. Or maybe it's a Ditto who couldn't get the transformation right. The sound it makes sounds like the sound Lugia makes, so maybe a Ditto tried to transform into a Lugia and a Dragonite at the same time and couldn't transform back. Case closed
My thoughts exactly about the Dragonite, T-Zone. Bill lives way too close to the power plant for any good to come of it.
But about the Crystal Onix, you're wrong. The Crystal Onix was an Onix that had gone for so long living in a crystal cavern without evolving, that its shell turned to crystal. It's impossible for that to have been Haganeru (that's how its spelled, and it's pronounced Ha-Ga-Nair, or Ha-Ga-Nail) for a number of reasons. On one hand, it was clearly NOT a Haganeru, they look far uglier and have huge underbites. On another hand, Haganeru have shells of steel, not crystal. And finally, and probably the most convincingly, Nintendo had not yet thought up an Americanized name for Haganeru. It is now called Steelix. And thus, they could not give it a major role in any of the episodes. Steelix's moment of glory comes later in the series. It will have its own stardom episode, but it hasn't appeared in the cartoon yet.
OK, you can close the case now.
1. To get a Mew, you either get one from the Pokemon league, or if you own the Japanese version, get all 150 Pokemon, than go to that person in Celadon that usually gives you a diploma, but instead you get a mew.
2. yes, that was a Dragonite and like many people have said, it was probably larger that most. In the Anime, the Pokemon almost never follow the sizes they are supposed to me. I mean, in the "Flame Poke-athon" episode, Ash is about two feet taller than Ponyta and yet he still rides Ponyta. Ponyta wouldn't be able to hold Ash.
3. Since this is a topic about Bill's lighthouse, did anyone notice that on the doors of the lighthouse, there are pictures of many many Pokemon including Scyther, Omanyte, Charizard, and MEWTWO! Where would there be a picture of Mewtwo on a door if people didn't know about Mewtwo?
The crystal Onix was NOT a Haganeeru!
Haganeeru is a steel-type Pokemon, and
his head looks quite different from an
Onix' head. And by the way, Haganeeru
is the Japanese name for Steelix (the
evolved form from Onix).
Okay, the crystal Onix wasn't a Steelix. But if you have the GB version of Pokemon, (Red or Blue), try this: Capture an Onix on level 50. Raise it to level 60. Trade it for another level 60 Onix that was captured and raised the same way. Trade them back and forth about four times and they will evolve into Dimsonix. Dimsonix, not Steelix. You need to do this cheat on the older versions. If this dosen't work, e-mail me at [email protected]. O_=
Hey T-zone! About your Dimsonix cheat or whatever ye called it. Anyways, it's fake. =)
As soon as I read about it from you, I jumped on AOL IM and called up a few friends.
They'd helped me stomp out "PokeGod" hoaxes in the past and they served me just as
well this time. I told them the supposed instructions to get Dimsonix and all three of us
tried it at once (even if it was real, I'd have to have someone to trade WITH, right?)
Well, we didn't get so far as raising the Onix. We were finished almost as soon as we
started. After an hour or so of searching
(two of us were using the Dodrio Stadium GB adapter, so it was more like four hours'
worth of searching packed into a sweet 52 minutes)
All three of us finally came to the same, almost disappointing conclusion that we had in
mind from the beginning.
There ARE no L50 Onix.
In the whole game.
So, you can't catch a wild L50 Onix.
So, you can't raise it to L60.
So, you can't trade it for another L60 onix raised the same way.
Let alone four times.
So, Dimsonix, much like its predescessors, never existed.
Nor did Mewthree, Pikablu, Togepi, Nidogod or any of that other carp.
YES! The Hoax-Stompin' Investigative Trio strikes again!
Nice teamwork huh? ~_^
Here's another good one. Catch a Magikarp with your only Master Ball. Trade for another Magikarp caught the same way. Put both of them in the daycare for 24 hours. Trade and put them in daycare for 48 hours, trade again and put them there for a week. Come back and the guy will say he lost it and give you Togepi! Take Togepi to Bill and he'll trade it for a Marill. Take Marill to your rival's house and he'll trade it for BongoMew! Take BongoMew to Mewtwo, and he will evolve into King Magikarp and once you fight him a million times he gives you infinite HP and everything in the game! If this trick doesn't work, hit the Game Boy on your head ten times and try again.
By the way, I have an interesting theory on Mewtwo regarding that "de-evolution" idea. What if, in the glorious past, all Mews were lanky, grouchy psychopaths with big veins on their foreheads before degrading into cuddly kitties?
Gungan Din rules!
Everyone in my school was convinced that the Mew-under-the-truck crap was real. It was fun to print out fake codes and see them waste craploads of time trying to catch all 150 Pokemon without Game Shark and Game Genie and trading in under 5 hours to get on the SS Anne again.
Try searching in Victory Road. I've found lvl 50 Onixes there in my Red version. And about how I came across it.....Well, I found it on the web at some sote that I found using a search engine. Anyways, you CAN find lvl 50 Onixes in Victory Road. So try it already! O_=
Ahhkay. I looked smore. And did I find any L50 Onix?
No. Not really, no. O.o
I tried the trick with two L46 Onix, and it didn't work. I did however end up with two remarkably weak L60 Onix. But that's all. If anyone else wants to take a little bit of their time to try this trick and see if it works on THEIR game, I'd appreciate it because I am convinced that this doesn't work, never did work, and never will work. And the very idea that Nintendo would name a Pokemon Dimsonix is even more depressing than New Coke. -_-
Okay, here's how to get the alpowerful Hocus Pocus! First, release all your Pokemon except for a level 100 Alakazam that knows Fire Blast. Next, go to Bill, he wants to have your Alakazam, you say no, Bill suddenly transforms into Picollo from Dragonball Z. Defeat him and it will say: "What, Alakazam is evolving?" Alakazam will then evolve into Hocus Pocus! If this doesn't work, wait untill the next full moon, throw your Gameboy up in the air and press A+B one million times, then restart the game and do the same thing all over again.
Darwin's evolution theories are NOT impossible. There's no evidence that living creatures "devolve". Give me one example of a species (in REAL LIFE) that has devolved. Please. Inanimate objects like the sun, batteries, and the planet aren't living things.
New Coke. Hmm....might be a good idea. On the other hand, if they get a New Coke, the Pepsi company will be after them for revenge. That means more Pepsi commercials. Which means more annoying songs from that mysterious freak known as the Pepsi Girl. Mars, you better not tell the Coke company about New Coke. They can be a bit to...ummmm...enthusiastic about ideas like that. About the Dimsonix thing, I haven't tried it. And I'm never gonna post a cheat anywhere without tryin' it. Promise. Whoops! Gotta get to a Bingo game. Cya. O_=
There's no official example that I know of right off. But it's a scientific fact with just as much info backing it up as Darwin, that nothing keeps getting more powerful, it only gets weaker, and eventually destroys itself. It's in the book, man, right next to ol' Charles the ape. Well, I didn't come here to question and debate the origin of our existence; so long!
T-bone, you'd be a little late to warn the Coke company against making "New Coke". Know why? IT CAME OUT YEARS AGO!!!!!! AND IT TASTED LIKE POO!!!!! Note how all Coke cans have "Original Taste" on them. That's why! > <
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It's fact, but you don't know any examples. And of course, you can't weaken if you're not at a point where you can weaken. Bah, Mars Guo, you are evil and must be killed until you die. And NEW COKE RULED!
Let's all join the Kill Mars G club. I was joking. Joking! First of all, Din, the name is T-zone, second of all, the day Mars loves Ash is the day I love Britney Spears. And if Mars hates brock, then I'm dropping my Game Boy off the Sears Tower. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, likes Ash. I'd rather be James in a beauty contest than like Ash. Brock kicks @$$! He's a decent trainer. And about New Coke, I've never heard of it before. But Diet Coke absotivley posolutley SUCKS! Now all they need to do two perfect Pokemon is to kill Trcey and Ash in an electric chair. Now THAT would be entertaining! :)
You can't get Mew on the Game-Boy inside the actual game. You have to travel to Tokyo to get it downloaded (for quite a high sum, I imagine), unless there is some pirated version of Mew that you can download too.
Pikablu is just the name given to Marril by people who know nothing about Pokemon. And that Dragonite could be a normal Dragonite which has mutated or something. Team Rocket scientists are forever working on ways to get more Pokemon. That's how the Porta Vista Tentacruel grew so big- Team Rocket tried to poison it. But it "super-sized". And you can imagine how appealing a Dragonite must be to them. It takes almost years to evolve a Dratini. First you get it to level 38 or something, then get Dragonair to level 55. And for what? A big yellow thing that is probably weaker than Dratini in the first place. It is the only one of the three to have a weakness to an element. It looks good, though.
What do you mean "can't get a Mew"?! You can get it at special Pokémon League events like Pokémon tournaments. I got a Mew from one. And that's no joke either. And the only reason that Dragonite is weak is because it is type Dragon/Flying. And Dratini and Dragonair are weak against Ice type Pokémon. Ever tried using Ice Beam on a Dragonair? It's super effective.
Ahhhh... the age-old Quad Damage Complaint. All Grass/Poisons and Rock/Grounds take quad damage, as well as Paras/ect, Omanyte/star and Kabuto/ps, Charizard, Moltres, Articuno, Butterfree, Scyther, Gyarados and even Exeggcute and Exeggutor. Has G/S fixed this? Heck no! Gligar, Scizor, Heracross, Jumpluff and Ho-oh, for example, take quad damage, too. Stop worrying about it. After all, what, for example, does Gyarados have to fear BESIDES an Electric opponent? Grass, Ice and Rock weakness are annulled by the other type.
"Life is like mashed potatoes. You have to take the lumps with the good stuff."
-Garfield
Hey!!! Do you know that poke Mon crystal is coming out? It will be the next version after gold and silver, there are probably more pokemon, maybe they include venustoise (which I doubt) and maybe that poke Mon is a mutation of a dragonite.
P.S. I have to write poke Mon, because that way I could have more chance to post this successfully.
I really hate to burst thy bubble, Pink. Poke Mon Crystal will, for the most part, be identical in every way to Gold and Silver. The only differences will be the addition of more animation, the ability to play over a cell phone, and the choice from the start to play as a male or female trainer.
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