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Star Trek: Generations - What Would Einstein Say?
During the part when Picard is on the planet and the rocket is fired at the star, it appears as though just as the rocket disappears from sight, the star goes black. Now it takes eight minutes for light from the sun to reach the earth. Even assumming that the rocket had warp, which it probably didn't, it still should have taken a few minutes for the light to stop. If the planet was that close, it would have been too hot and the star would have appeared much bigger.
I'm not even going to get into the facts about stellar structure.
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Chris M on 04-08-2000
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10-4 writes:
You are all forgetting one important fact: it also takes the light from the ROCKET the same amount of time to reach your eyes. So let's say the light from the sun takes X minutes to reach your eyes. When you see the rocket hit the sun, you do not see it AT THE MOMENT the rocket hits the sun, but X minutes later, when the light from the rocket reaches your eye. Therefore, if the sun were to go dark immediately after being hit by the rocket, it would still appear to happen immediately after you see the rocket hit it, no matter how far away from you it happens.
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Nevil writes:
Chris's comment is correct scientifically, (and no, Drone, the lack of light could not travel faster than the speed of light and somehow extinguish the light that was already on its way to the planet) but I just watched that scene again and the sequence is a little different. You see the rocket ascending through the atmosphere, the scene cuts to Picard and Soran staring at the sky, then it cuts back to the sky and--at least on my fuzzy screen--you can't see the rocket or it's trail. So, in this scene, several minutes must have passed for the rocket to have reached the sun, and several more for its visible effect to have reached the planet, where we see the sun go dark.
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Greystone writes:
That scene would have been real boring if it had taken eight minutes for the light of the exploding sun to get to the planet. We'd have had the two of them standing there yelling at each other. "Damn you! You've killed a whole civilization!" "So what? I want to get in the Nexus!" "That's no excuse for . . ." etc, etc. I'd have fallen asleep before the christmas tree scene.
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Jon writes:
This would all be true, except for one simple mistake which you all seem to have missed. This is not earth, nor is it even our solar system. It's the Veridian System. It takes 8 minutes for our sun to reach our earth, no one ever said how long it took the sun in the Veridian system to reach veridian 3. This was a slip up on everyone else's part.
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CX writes:
Worf said that a probe launched from the BoP or the planet would take 8 seconds to reach the star so the probe must have been warp capable and simply used rocket propulsion to clear the atmosphere before it went into warp. Makes sense to me. (rockets in the 24th century!?)
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@ssKicker writes:
It doesn't matter how fast the probe goes, you still wouldn't see the explosion until later. The light still has to come back through the atmosphere, which takes, on Earth, eight minutes. If the sun were much closer, all life on the planet would die.
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Minstrel writes:
They already asked that, in the movie. Remember? The ship would be so heavily damaged that it was risky to do so - this was the only sure-fire way to get into the Nexus without dying first.
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jessoperkins writes:
The probe was based upon a Mark IV torpedo, which is capable of attaining warp. If it wasn't, than the probe must have been fitted with a small fusion reactor and impulse drive system.
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Drone1551 writes:
The probe launched from the planet "Veridian 3" must have had Warp capabilities! Perhaps the distance from "Veridian 3" to it's sun was not as far as the Earth is to it's sun which is about 93 million miles give or take. When the probe interacted with the "Veridian" star it must have come back towards "Veridian 3" at Warp speeds as well.
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thedrewbert writes:
Why didn't soran just buy a ship or steal a ship and fly it into the nexus?
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